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man. >> that puts things in perspective tonight and tonight, there are millions saluting back. thanks for inviting us into your home. that's it for this special edition of special report. fair, balanced and still unafraid. . >> breaking news tonight on the kelly file. deal is done. debt ceiling lifted. government back open for 12 weeks. what happens then? hi, everyone, i'm megyn kelly we're waiting for the presidents signature, the white house saying all federal workers can return tomorrow and they can expect every bit of their back pay. it's hardly over, because america runs out of money again in roughly 90 days and congress has 40 working days to reach a new deal. ed henry joins us with the
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latest. here we are. what? >> good morning to you. the senate just adjourned until october 28th soy guess they had to do this work to finally get the deals on but now they're going to take time off. perhaps no surprise. the president trying to do a number of things tonight when he came into the briefing room. first he was trying to change the tone, if you will. some had been calling republicans terrorists and hostage takers tonight he was saying it's time for the nation to come together. he said he's going to come out tomorrow to layout what he thinks is a vision for the next few weeks in terms of trying to come together. i think that is also part of the president trying to turn the page from this debate. he is a president who is, you know facing the block here, time running out before he's going to be a lame duck. he spent time over the last year on issues he didn't want to spend time on.
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like irs and benghazi, nsa scandal and what not on top that have syria sapped a few weeks of time. now, these budget battles so he wants to give back to immigration reform and some of his other legacy items realizing time is rung out. there are as noted nuts and bolts of getting this back up and running. now that is why this memo put out tonight saying workers have been furllied we have to get back to work tomorrow morning. they've got to do that. and in fact i talked to a secret service uniformed officer told me he's been working 16 day was out pay. there have been people protecting others. they're going get that back pay for this officer told me he'd be willing to take his cruiser to the capitol driving that bill to make sure the president signs it tonight.
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>> and this is sort of a paid vacation. >> that is given to them. >> can i ask you about tone is in the president came out in between the vote in senate and house and said a nice tone sort of didn't spike the ball in the end zone saying we've got to regain the trust of the american people, but that is today's version of barack obama. in the past you never know what you're going to get. sometimes he's devicive. sometimes, he pokes republicans and sometimes, he is critical of them. and sometimes, he does it at the wrong moment when he needs them. and trying to hash out something. but tonight, we saw a different version. i mean, what difference does it make? >> is this going to be help snfl. >> that is the question. will it last? did r.the president was acknowledging while republicans based on polls had
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taken a bigger hit he acknowledged he took a hit. democrats on the hill took a hit. i think trying to take some of the blame and responsibility tonight. will it last? what is he going to say home? is this going to be blaming snem if he discontinue the tone of tonight, maybe that is all ls about his own personal pliblgs in getting republicans on his side because again, time is running out on his legacy items he's burned almost a year, and hasn't gotten major domestic achievements and health care issue has turned out to be trickier than he thought he gets as good as he gives when it comes to tone. but he is the president. >> republicans are not shy. ted cruz and others about beating up on this president but if he wants to get stuff done might interest v.to keep some of that in check. >> right. when you lead it's tough to get people to follow when you're treating them badly or
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speaking in a way that is disrespectful. ed, tu good to see you there is a story from washington but what about the story from main street and wall street? the host of money melissa francis. >> wife been waiting for that, to be on kelly files. i love it so markets that they're not going implode. not going to be armageddon. what is the importance? >> you saw the markets rise today in anticipation of. we'll probably see them go down tomorrow that is how traders are. they trade ahead of the action but nothing really happened. we didn't make any progress. no one really expected united states to defau. you saw investors scoop up bombs supposed to be bad because they knew that wouldn't happen now we have 90 days until we go through this again. nothing happened. the question is, on the bigger picture chris, i mean, really? the president says we're not
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going to be right back in this same position? 90 days from now? did paul ryan have a trick up his sleeve? and patty murray? do they vai trick going owe change people's minds on entitlement spending and taxes? it's never worked in five years? >> well whurks put it that way, it does sound bad. but... look. here is the thing. we did this, we did almost exactly this. and n.2011. last time the president won a big debt ceiling increase. and he paid dearly last time for what we had what we call sequestration caps on automatic increases to spending. there is another big round that have coming up in january. this, what we did tonight is all directing us up to that moment before the next round of sequestration kicks in. thinking in washington, and
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it's magical, the thinking is that the president. the next round will drive people to come up with a solution. but we know reality is that real deadline for washington is mid term election coming up in november what. we'll see is more stumbling and bumbling up to november. >> what about that list? some saying this their one victory. if they had one. which was keeping the sequester cuts, decreases to the increases they kept those in place. because democrats also wanted to put those on, in the mix republicans one thing they held firm on saying we're not going discuss those, that sequester spending. >> it is true and interesting to see that twheen we've seen with this shut down i think people realized you can live with less. i mean you wonder how much that sticks. you see there hasn't been a huge hit on the economy.
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you're going hear companies say earnings are lower because of the shut down. but that is not true. everyone didn't get their check is going to get it. it's going to go out to spend whatever money they're going any way. i don't think that was a drag on the economy. if you're honest looking at what's happening you can so say we we can have a smaller government. you made the point we're $17 trillion in the hole. everything is a tiny drop in the bucket that does slutdly nothing to fix that. that is something companies out there know. we're just living in this slower economy for a long time. >> no one has got the -- . >> i know how you're going to -- . >> they don't. have they ever? >> prove me wrong. this is controversial? this day? chris? i mean is this something that is, there someone out there going disagree with me? they do have guts and we're going see something meaningful happen on debt? >> well, the people that no labels kind of people middle
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people say what this is going to be where people come together for having learned this. i i disagree with that. sheer why. american is lesh learning to care less and less about what washington says and does because to melissa's point, money. the idea that somehow these crisis people stopped paying attention, not listening. saying oh it's the cliff we've been on a cliff. america learned to expect far less than expected before from washington from both president and congress. so the next time they come together and say it's another crisis what will happen is that people will say yeah. wake us when it's over. we've become israeli-palestinian peace process of a government. >> that is fine. we're discussing here tonight. we're all parents. a lot of viewers are parents. we've got kids asleep right now. that $17 trillion hanging there. and we're out here saying they're not going do anything.
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i'm being flip bit. it's their money. >> yes. it is. that is debt they're going have to pay later, can you imagine you're out there spending and buying cars and houses and leaving the bills to your kids? >> i am. aren't i? >> i am. >> yechl the government is. >> yes. >> figuratively speaking. >> that is going on. >> it's what is going on that. is who is going pay this bill it's painful. they pay through taxes and through slower growth over time. companies that aren't going to have more jobs and better paychecks for them because they're busy trying to pay off the debt. >> so confusing when you have a guest on the set. >> i know. >> we're trying to follow it we've got it. >> we're professional autos getting punchy at 12:10 eastern time. thank you very much. >> thank you. >> what do you think about this? go to facebook.com and leave a comment or send me a tweet. let me know, what do you
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think? it's sort of laugh or cry, right? $17 trillion. leadership? no one has appetite to do anything about it. that is why we have the number. that we have right here. >> it's huge. >> up next, republican kron congressman steve king why he voted no tonight. what he and fellow representatives plan to doing next. plus a capitol hill staffer questioned by police now after being dragged off the house floor tonight we're learning more about her and what happened to her. the american dream is of a better future,
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business bizar moments tonight when a stenographer was dragged off the floor. she managed to make it to the speaker's chair and went on a rant that last td a half minute. mike emmanuel is live from the capitol. mike? >> good morning following the outbust the woman was interview bid police and take taken to the hospital for a mental health evaluation. here name is diane reidy, well known as one of the stenographers that works on the house of representatives floor. we're told she asked if microphones were on and saying thus spoke the lord and this is not the lord's work. >> constitution would not have been written by free nation
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that's go against god. you cannot serve two masters. you cannot serve two masters. praise be to god. who are jesus christ. >> congress woman laigt onwas presiding over the time trying to quiet her, reidy then said something about the devil. it was sudden, confusing and heart breaking noting this woman is typically a gentle soul this, is a moment late night on a big night here on capitol hill that seemed to stun lawmakers on both sides of the aisle. >> thank you. >> now, our fox news senior capitol hill producer was here seconds after and spoke with member who's watched it unfold. sounds like a sad incident sounds like the person may have had a mental health episode. where as she, you know never had been prone to that in the past. from the sound of it, chad? >> right i know skmer have
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talked to her many times. over the years and there are a lot of references to god during her rant. pulling into the hall trying to take her down the elevator she's very religious. people are concerned. she has a smiling disposition we see a lot of strange things on capitol hill. it's not strange that we see a protest outside, fwhuns a while there is a protest inside. but to have a protest in the middle of such a big vote as vote coming to a close and no less for it to be someone works here, i don't think i've ever seen that. that is what is so confusing. so far someone run up to the area this is where the president speaks to deliver the state of the union. >> have you to ask about security measures. and only ones that are made public but you know, is there a screening process that these people have to go through? those people who we entrust to
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work close to lawmakers? >> yeah. i never heard of anything like that when it comes to an issue like that but they do have u.s. capitol police in speaker lobby, there are also persons from the sargeant at arms office coming in. if you look at video first person to get to her was the house tom wickham then two other chamber security personnel who ushered her out. those people you know are asked to keep order in the house chamber we had them take house helps out one congressman put on a hoody. they removed him because that wasn't in the decore yum of the house. >> what were lawmakers saying in reaction? >> people were stunned. the minority whip from maryland just had a look of shock. other people were scratching their heads saying we know her.she the were concerned about thaerks is one of the things
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capitol hill is a small community. it's like a small town. everybody knows each other. you see each other, you talk. members and lawmakers and journalists, aides, stenographers. this is why i have talked to her. that is why everybody is shocked. that on a night like tonight in the middle of a big vote is just bizarre. that is the only word for it. >> as much of the process has been, chad, thank you very much. we wish her the best. in the road ahead. >> want to let our viewers know we're getting word the president has signed the bill. that has been forwarded to him. from the senate passed this evening. we do now have a deal. the president signed it. the government will remain open and the debt ceiling will be raised until february 7th. lawmakers have until then to
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decide what next. is that coming again? it's coming again. and you know the government is going need to get funtded. we'll continue to watch white houseworking late tonight as are a lot of folks in washington and beyond. up next, fierce attacks, lobbed at republican party. from some members of the media? >> i say as a party dominated by aging white americans and some very vocal bigots, republican party no longer represents changing demo graph i was having trouble getting out of bed in the morning because my back hurt so bad. the sleep number bed conforms to you. i wake up in the morning with no back pain. i can adjust it if i need to...if my back's a little more sore. and by the time i get up in the morning, i feel great! if you have back pain, toss and turn at night or wake up tired with no energy, the sleep number bed could be your solution. the sleep number bed's secret is it's air
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again, breaking news, the president signed the bill that ends the government shut down for now but we did not get here without you canly attacks in recent days we heard republicans referred to as hostage takers, domestic abusers and terrorists.
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that is just lawmakers saying that stuff. take a listen to remarks from the media. >> so i say as a party dominate bid aging white america, and some very vocal bigots, republican party no longer represents changing demographics of the country. republicans here is the bottom line from those of us not matching you're blinded by obama hate tree. fighting amongst yourselfs in a death spiral. >> joining me now, guy benson. a fox news contributor and richard fowler. guy your thoughts? your thoughts on that that republican party is dominated by vocal bigots? >> that is a heavily charged word this, is something that bothers me. there is this aassumption this motive of hatred to people who
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might oppose president poll says. of course there are people who hate this president. there are people who hated the previous president there is no doubt about that. but there are legitimate policy disagreements and to try to delegitimize by labeling them and branding them hatred is stifling discussion and really is unproductive and often actually offensive. >> there was a some example of this when the guy standing with the flag, another guy saying you had to put down the koran. people do dislike the president but to suggest that is what republican party is about? bridge too far? uk see both sides on that one. thanks for having me, by the way. i got to tell you when we have seen here from this republican
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party is that they have shut down this government for 15 days and accomplished nothing. i think that is the argument that don lemon is try tg make here saying everybody sees you guys have accomplished nothing. seems though, perception is that reason why you're so up front is because of skin color that, is the perception put out there. that is part of the problem. >> what perception is that? other than sniz. >> perceptions of kblinls of americans feel people are against this president because of the skin color, nothing else. that is bad. >> it's not true. obama care. >> i said perception. >> let me just say, richard let's talk about obama care. that is what this shut down was supposedly b the shut down is over by the way as of about 30 seconds ago. we can finally stop talking about that and talk about the law. i hear that people oppose obama care because they hate the president and want to deny
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people health care. i saw a news story about a young couple got dumped off coverage, a broken promise their new deductible so high they had to sell a car to pay for the birth of their child. this law is hurting people. that is why we oppose it. not out of hatred or bigotry. going down that path serve nose purpose. yes, there are bigots. they should be called out. >> it is debate for some people. they call you a racist they put you on the defensive. then, you're talking about whether you're a racist as opposed to the issue. richard do you think that these people would not be out protesting and you know, let's say ted cruzes of the world wouldn't be fighting tooth and nail if we had a president harry reid or nancy pelosi or a president hillary clinton? >> i don't know. we'd have to see what happened. >> i know. have you to see. but do you really think that their opposition would be less
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fervant? >> already certain folk whuz see republican party i'm not saying all of them i'm saying there are people in the republican party make comments like tar baby. >> stop you there. you're right people have made those comments. >> those are elected republican officials. >> but, but, people have been comments on the other side as well. like how do you then dismiss the party as, you know... >> i have been point ought just particular individuals but to go back to guy's point about obama care that is just the red hering. individual who's love my show, she's saving $500 a month because to get coverage. not to mention the fact three million young people back on their parent insurance, 50 million people can get insurance because they had conditions previously. the law works thachl is why ted cruz lost the debate. people are seeing the benefits and he couldn't show you or get his own caucus to agree
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with him. >> the question will remain to be seen is the guy saving $500 out of the pocket of the guy that guy is talking about. >> we'd been promised it would be perfect for virtually everybody. what it would help everyone's premiums get down and help everyone get coverage. told that national health care spending was going topg down, premiums go down, no one gets dropped coverage. it's not true for millions of people. so cherry picking some people with the law. >> i just don't understand. they continue, you guys continue to make arguments on people losing wages. all people getting fired. recent jobs report indicated after rinl hourly per worker has gone up. soy don't understand were you guys are getting facts from. >> i have to run.
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>> interesting discussion with the guy who is the ceo of the company that runs carl's junior had an interesting answer on your point richard. that is posted on our facebook page if you want to check it out. in any event good debate. thank you for being here. >> thank you. >> now shut down is over debt deal is done, america gets a chance to evaluate the health care law. on merits. way from the fog of controversy. the story next. >> going to vote no need to have a period of self reflection this, has been a difficult sut shut down for people. and i nid to be better persuading people on why raising debt ceiling for the 82 time is not good for the country. i'm not going cast stones at anyone other than myself.
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bret and are goring to go to raid yes city music hall. you can see lights are out g to know. lights dark. radio city music hall. rockettes have gone home, yet we're still here reporting news for you. >> we can turn to the health care question. if you missed it some of the biggest media outlets have become some of the biggest critics of the roll out. the chicago tribune writing a piece about, quote, why obama care is a mess. the washington post saying health exchange sending confusing health information to insurers. also from the start signs of trouble at health portals. joining me now, laura larson. good to see you again. so, in the washington post talks about how the number of visitors to the health
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care.gov web site fell 88% in the first 13 days. less than half of 1% of the visitors successfully enrolled. it fell 88%. the number in less than half of 1% successfully enrolled. i mean, in most businesses if that were are your track record your boss and you would be having an unpleasant conversation. lars. >> well, look at this, you shouldn't be surprised by this. >> after three years of talking, sunk into this mess? people fworg to be curious about what is there. once they got there and discovered it's a technology cal nightmare. the site isn't working you're not getting comparison for those, i guess few that got through they found out it offers up plans that are worse than what they have already.
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they're going pay higher deductibles and premiums and for the 20 somethings it's a scam. here is what they're doing. they're going to tell a twsomete thousand bucks a year. deductibles so high, you'll never get anything out of the poll sismt we'll take the money and pay for other peoples health care witness. what smart 20 something would sign up for that disaster? >> how do they plan to. >> people trying to sign up for it can't get on the site. are you going tell people have you to pay a penalty? and they're going to say i didn't have all year to sit on your web site to sign up for it. >> my prediction would be 30
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days or 60 days until glitches are fixed but individuals signing up are people without insurance and it's common for people to look at something then going into a system in december and sign up. here in the state of california i checked. i pretended i was something and someone other than i was. a lot younger, and not married with two kids and if i were to go to an hmo like kaiser, i saved hundreds on obama care. what am i getting? insurance. fi had no insurance, all i can do is wait until i'm in critical mode and go to the emergency room. which is what millions are doing. >> there was an interesting piece on washington post talking about how according to an analysis, 21 of the 22 lowest price plans offered on illinois exchange had deductibles of four grand for an individual. $4,000. these people don't have
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insurance because probably they can't afford it. soits a $4,000 deductible. $8,000 for family coverage. and then, plans have least expensive premium they're talking about deductibles, 6300 for individuals and almost $13,000 deductible for families. who, who can afford that? >> i've got to tell thu is one of the critical distinctions. we've been trying to make it for people into discussion of the bill. you know, we can't didn't know what is in it. we've been saying there is a difference between insurance and health care. a lot of the 20 somethings and 30 somethings who can't afford it. now, can't afford this more expensive obama care with premium goesing up, they have health care in this sense. when they get sick they go to the merlg room. they don't pay because they don't have money and don't have insurance. hospitals write it off. the rest of us pay more has
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been the system. idea is that obama is going to get them to sign up, pay and deductibles so high they'll likely rarely reach them. the other scary thing just coming out tonight is that if you read into the obama care application, it says you have no expectation of privacy. and then, any information you put into it is accessible by federal, state and local authorities when local water district wants to find out about leslie or whoever she is pretending to be on the web site they can access it. megyn you're a lawyer this, is written into the fine print. put your data here, we'll give it to any government agency that walks around. >> i'll give you last word, leslie. >> bottom line is that lars weather -- whether a marriage, business or national health care let it start and run before you criticize it. i know it's killing you guys
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but it might work out. talk to me a year from now. when people are insured and have preventative care. we're a healthier nation not cramming emergency rooms. i think it's going to be better for america. let's let it happen and talk in a year. >> all right. thank you both. >> thanks megyn. >> before this passed congress two republican senators went all in on efforts to stop it. up next senator ted cruz and mike lee share reaction after the vote.
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>> this deal does nothing for the american people. >> it's a missed opportunity. if we had stayed behind the republican party that fought nobly to keep veterans programs funded and our national parks open, i think we could have made more progress. it was an important missed opportunity. we have to emphasize the fact it's the end of the beginning, a fight that will continue to those who tragically lost jobs or saw their premiums skyrocket or wages cut and hours slashed. we will see more and more of these come out in the coming months as we get closer and
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closer to this implementation. this is a tragedy i still hope we can find a way to avoid. unfortunately today's decision will make that more likely, more people will suffer as a result of this law. >> at the end of the day, the old saying is politics -- and we don't have thin skin. it doesn't matter politicians bickering back and forth. whatever others choose to say, i haven't chosen to resciprocate and won't. there are people hurting and picking up a letter from their insurance company and discovering the insurance they're relying on to provide their family vital health care is being taken away. i just heard a story today about a family of missionaries who home skochool their kids and goa letter recently saying their insurance is taken away because of obama care and talking about
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going on the mission field to get jobs to provide insurance for their children. that's the reason we're going to win because this thing isn't working and the american people understand that. >> let me know what you think. send me a tweet at #kelly file or on my facebook page. we'll be right back. i was having trouble getting out of bed in the morning because my back hurt so bad. the sleep number bed conforms to you. i wake up in the morning with no back pain. i can adjust it if i need to...if my back's a little more sore. and by the time i get up in the morning, i feel great! if you have back pain, toss and turn at night or wake up tired with no energy, the sleep number bed could be your solution. the sleep number bed's secret is it's air chambers which provide ideal support and put you in control of the firmness. and the bed is perfect for couples because each side adjusts independently to their unique sleep number.
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here's what clinical research has found: 93% of participants experienced back-pain relief. 90% reported reduced aches and pains. 87% fell asleep faster and enjoyed more deep sleep. for study summaries, call this number now. we'll include a free dvd and brochure about the sleep number bed including prices, and models plus a free $50 savings card. and how about this? steel springs can cause uncomfortable pressure points. but the sleep number bed contours to your body. imagine how good you'll feel when your muscles relax and you fall into a deep sleep! i'm not just a back surgeon, i'm also a back patient. i sleep on the sleep number bed myself and i highly recommend it to all of my patients. need another reason to call? the sleep number bed costs about the same as an innerspring but lasts twice as long. so if you want to sleep better or find relief for your bad back, call now.
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call the number on your screen for your free information kit with dvd, brochure and price list. call right now and you'll also receive a $50 savings card just for inquiring about the sleep number bed. ask about our risk-free 100-night in-home trial. call now for your free information kit and a free $50 savings card. call now!
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so the debt deal is done, it is law and one person said it's not over. >> it's over? nothing is over until we decide it is. was it over when the germans bombed pearl harbor? hell no? >> germans?
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>> it ain't over now! >> it's a classic moment. don't forget, he got his way when all was said and done and then went on to become what? what? send time. >> special edition of special report coming up next, we'll see you tomorrow. this is is a fox news alert and i'm brett bear. >> are there 81yay's and 18nay's. the bill is reported as passed. >> on this vote, the yay's are 285 and the nays are 144. the motion is adopted. without objection the motion to reconsider is laid upon the table. >> once this agreement arrives on my desk i will sign it immediately. baier we are one hour from what is supposed to be the day the u.s. government hit borrowing himmit but that has been averted. a short time ago the house passed a measure to

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